Women's Survival Thread
 

What precisely are these "rights of women" to survive? Please be so kind as to help us men understand why women have special "rights" to survive.

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What precisely are these "rights of women" to survive? Please be so kind as to help us men understand why women have special "rights" to survive.



They have right to surive because if women are left to their own devices

They cultivate a aura of caring, nuturing and respect for other people and things.

Rather than men who feel they have the right to plunder ,abuse and defile everything that they touch.



How about the fact that they bring life into the world....rather then most men who have a nasty habbit of wanting to end it??



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Sounds like a solid answer. Can we put the antagonistic threads towards women to rest and discuss what we as people are going to about saving our asses?
Between the racial strife and gender-bashing this site is becoming rather laborious to find anything worth reading.

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tshtf, I don't think you will get too much support on this board. Some of the men here on the survival board actually like women.

Good answer TA. Women create life and are necessary for survival of the species. In truth we could keep a handful of genetically superior breeder males around and keep things going.

Looking at it from a different perspective the old law of the sea "women and children first" no longer applies. I don't mourn its loss. I would have an entirely different requirement for survival. It would be set up on age. All old people including myself should be the first to go. We had our shot at life. All children and people equipped to feed, clothe and nurture those children regardless of gender should have first place in the survival chain. Healthy adult men and woman can fight it out after the kids are taken care of. Beware of the ladies though, we can be tricky and might give you a run for your money.

In the end it doesnt matter what we think. God gets to decide who stays and who goes. It might all go down different then any of us plan.

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TA, not that I mean to thread jack this productive thread but when do you start the new job? You are still going to visit here I hope.

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I guess it is a matter of perspective...but I thought the superior males were supposed to gather harems of females and the males were supposed to do the corralling?, at least that's how it works with other mammals.:D

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This is the year 2008. men don't want to support one woman let alone a whole harem.. :yes:

When I saw you answered this post I thought for sure you were applying for the job of male breeder. :D

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Hopefully, I'm done on the breeding circuit...I've been raising children for the past 23 years and although I love my children more than anybody on the planet... as you know, when you have children, it is no longer about you...it is about the future. I'm going to pass the breeding and harem gathering on to my son. :s9:

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My Daughter is 24 and just moved back home.
I understand..!!!
The really scary part is she is so happy to be home she says she is never leaving again,:bear_w00t:

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I don't want this to come across sexist, so if it does that is not my intent:

Women are very important in even day to day survival as they give the men a purpose. It is in (most) men's nature to be protective of women, and in a SHTF situation, it just may be the women that provide the men with the motivation to start getting out there and making themselves useful instead of devolving into a perpetual war mode.

Many of the early great inventions were brought about in an attempt to provide for, or improve the lives of the inventor's family.

I am pretty sure they are why we don't live in caves.

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Seems my memory is failing me.

Time once was where wimmin's lib were bashing the menfolk for protecting them, for keeping them from the harsh reality that is life. They stayed home and tended to the family and actually raised children on their own. Serious!

They wanted to be free. To have free choice.

Now they get to pay taxes just like the men. They get heart disease just like the men. They get and got all they asked for.

Well, they got it and now it seems they want out? :smokin: I thought we're all in this survival game together???

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Just a philosophical question: If a man talked in a forest and there was no woman to hear him, would he still be wrong?

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excuse me... where do you see any woman here asking for a free ride. Shirley supports herself and her elderly Mother. Maxine was a Pilot in the air force and supports herself. I am the one in my family buying PMs, weapons and preps while my husband choses to be blissfully unaware. Please point out where any woman here is asking to be taken care of.

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What is the point of this thread? Where do you get this crap?

"As was mentioned earlier on this thread, GIM is in fact about metals, but it's also about surviving the political/economic debacle we all see coming. Depending on how bad you think things are going to get, planning for survival may involve only a few well-reasoned economic moves, or it could involve the whole end-of-the-world-find-a-bug-out-place scenario. That's precisely why GIM has a survival forum. Unfortunately, too few of the men here recognize the rights of women to survive also, and they dismiss our needs as being unimportant. A whole lot of them seem to be entertaining the fantasy that their beans and bullets will have young half-dressed nubile things flocking to them in droves seeking food and protection. (Personally, my guess is that these are the same delussional fools who can't get a date because no woman worth her salt would put up with their ugly attitudes.)"

Maybe I missed the memo, but I don't think survival prep is about any sexist agenda. If you have special needs you should address them with the gold/silver/gun/food/medicines hoarding members of your household. How is your need less than mine if we are a family? I don't get it. I prep under the assumption that I will probably be out of play pretty quickly and YOU will be the one to carry on the tradition. Sexist whom?

In my household, the woman pretty much runs things. I am just in control of the wealth accumulation department and the "fix this, upgrade that, and remodel this" department. So I get to work, earn the wealth, buy all the preps, make sure they work, teach the family how it all works and why we need it, fix everything that ever breaks, and do continuous improvements. For this I get basic housecleaning and laundry, a clean set of underwear and socks every day and I usually have to make dinner. So maybe I need a forum with a special password that addresses my special male needs.

We all (men and women) work our asses off and provide our families to the best we are capable of. Why do you feel smited? Maybe you should take that up with your partner.

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Women are very important in PAW as the greatest after basic survival is the need to repopulate as quickly as possible following the apocalyptic event. Otherwise the whole exercise is pointless. For reference see "Children of Men".

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/80/26...439f3a7de2.jpg

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Nah, it's 'cause he likes to post unflattering pictures of women. He seems to have a rather disturbingly large collection of those for some reason. :bear_tongue: Well, there's only one way to know for sure it's him: *ahem* (clears throat)... ALIMONY! CHILD SUPPORT! ABORTION!

There! That should bring the KG/Book we all know and love crashing out of the gate, snorting and bucking like an angry bull. :D

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Women are half the population and bring a vital and unique perspective to life. Any philosophy or movement that drives a wedge between men and women is destructive and is to be fought vigorously.

The nuclear family unit is the essential building block of human civilization. Raising fully-formed young men and women is an extremely time-consuming and complex process which requires daily...DAILY... input from both mom and dad. Nothing could be more obvious.

I for one am extremely interested to read the perspective of women posters regarding how families can deal with economic severity. My wife adds something to our home which is unmistakable and very different from my own contributions. Two heads are better than one.

I for one wish Jaima was still posting here. I found her posts on the subject of prepping to be informative and valuable.

Those of you who know me know I am willing to "get into it" with feminists seeking special privilege. Those arguments though are distractions from what could otherwise be valuable information-sharing here at GIM.

For example, there's some f*cking idiot on Bloomberg TV right now telling me I should buy financials and consumer discretionary stocks. What we are experiencing now is the mother of all engineered bottoms. We need to concentrate on making sense of it and to not spend time fighting among ourselves. GIM may have noticed I have stayed out many of the recent male/female threads.

I am very interested in reading women's perspective on dealing with economic severity from a nuclear family perspective.

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I think Jaima is here posting under a different name. Edit. Avalon.

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shhhhh!!!!! :tongue_ma:

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Well you actually wrote a whole post I agree with. I am a big believer in traditional nuclear families. I not only raised my own children but will do what is needed to keep my future grandchildren out of daycare.

That being said the fighting on GIM needs to stop.
There are many wounded souls here both male and female. For every tale of woe and abuse men tell on this board the woman here could match them. Collectively as a gender we have been beaten, bruised, cheated on , divorce , experience sexual abuse as children and had many other horrible events in our life. You do not see one single woman on this board blaming the men on GIM for the misfortune they may have had in relationships.

The truth is no man here on GIM is responsible for the bad experiences women here have endured with men.... and no woman here is responsible for the bad relationships the men have suffered at the hands of a female.

Please stop all the generalizing, its very demeaning to the women here.....We are not "the generic woman"... and Killer please, please stop dating women who have sex for money and then assume all of us exchange our bodies for cash or a burger at McDonald's. Once again that is your individual issue and it is very hurtful read that.

Anyway, peace...... As SWR said our goal should be survival on all levels. Like it or not we are going to have to work together to achieve that.

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I'm really not trying to start any argument but I feel you could take a hit of your own medicine in that regard. There have been many comments made by yourself that generalize men in a negative light that I found rather insulting though I rarely take the issue so seriously as to call you on it.

The only difference here is that the girls are outnumbered so we all see a lot more girl-bashing than guy-bashing. In general, the gender bashing is not only out of control but out of context for this forum.

Divided we fall.

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TA, I understand the sentiment w/ which you posted this however, I’d respectfully ask you to carefully reconsider your rather broad characterization of men. While some (of us even) men have been conditioned to break things and kill people, many men would do so only if necessary and with a heavy heart even then. I think your description above more accurately describes the evil that so permeates this world rather than a human with balls and a pecker.
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IMO I think that women should really just get what they ask for.. If they wish to be their own provider, why shouldn't they? If they have placed themselves under the care of a man, then shouldn't her chosen man care for her and their children?

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While I think it was unfair for the OP to drag her quote in here, (as I have noticed she either hasn’t seen it or wisely chose to ignore it)-My response to that is that I think that is a sad mischaracterization of men based on apparently more than a few bad experiences here.

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As to the OP- How can "rights" be gender specific? What in the world are you trying to accomplish? Are you so threatened by the opposite sex that you have to stir up things w/ this drabble? Has your ego been so completely tarnished that you have to resort to provoking women? Have a tampon dood.<o:p></o:p>
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Exactly. So why demand a separate special password-protected "Women Only" section at Gold Is Money?

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Which is the point I was trying to clumsily make...

If someone is harassing, the mods can 'fix' the problem. No 'special' anything required.

...and welcome back Avalon. I always appreciated your insight.

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Is this yet another attempt to start a women's forum by the same players?
MODERATORS KILL THIS THREAD NOW!!!!

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The Choice under the Taliban, yes.

No one demanded a password protected Womens' Forum. What happened is that one of the mods decided that was the way to go and it ended up in a big row. Which, pathetically enough, has started up again.

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This thread was started by tshhtf. Who most certainly does not seem to be a woman.

It appears to have been started as an effort to cause trouble and to keep the further round of the 'GIM war of the sexes' which started on Squeex thread fanned up.

I hope the thread is closed too, it is of no value.

I agree with the numerous posters here who have said words to the effect that survival is about everyone, men, women and children.

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Those who think women are only valued if they can pop out babies, after the fan, are like people who look at you quizzically when you try to explain that silver eagles or 90% are real money and provides insurance for their families - they just don't get it, shortsided. There have been some posts along these lines and it is frightening to think some men really believe this.

This post is refreshing and I would welcome him and his wife in my fox hole any day - he understands, and equally important, recognizes the value women can bring to a crisis. The future will be grim if men like this are in the minority.

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Enough already - you are wrong, this is not what happened. Drop it or you will not find yourself as 'tshhtf' getting to post #20.

As far as your other apparent issues, I doubt you will listen to any of the wise men at GIM and even more confident you will not listen to the wise women.

AgAuGal (since you appear to need things spelled out for you - MOD able to ban your kiester at least until your next incarnation).

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After further review of the thread, thread closed!